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Archived System CR SCR120303-02 Detail

 
Title: Allow single LSR to convert Analog Loop to NonLoaded (2 or 4 wire) or ADSL UBL (Unbundled loop) with Loop Splitting
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SCR120303-02 Withdrawn
1/22/2004
5500 - 7000   3/ Ordering UNE
Originator: Balvin, Liz
Originator Company Name: MCI
Owner: Winston, Connie
Director:
CR PM: Esquibel-Reed, Peggy
Description Of Change
Qwest currently requires CLECs to submit two LSRs to provision an Unbundled Loop with Loop Splitting when the existing loop is analog. MCI requests Qwest provide the ability to submit a single LSR to convert an Analog Loop to Non-Loaded (2 or 4 wire) or ADSL qualified UBL and add Loop Splitting.

NOTE: It is MCI’s understanding that stand alone UNE-P POTS and/or Line Splitting (UNE-P POTs with DSL) to Loop Splitting via one LSR is already covered except for Activity Types of V and Z for which there is a Qwest initiated internal change request (SCR120303-01) to address.

Expected Deliverable:

That CLECs accomplish converting end user’s with analog loops to unbundled loop with loop splitting on a single LSR.

Status History

Date Action Description
12/3/2003 CR Submitted  
12/4/2003 CR Acknowledged  
12/4/2003 Info Requested from CLEC Email Sent to Liz Balvin/MCI requesting Clarification Meeting Availability 
12/4/2003 Info Requested from CLEC Email Sent to Liz Balvin/MCI asking if this CR is a duplicate of SCR120303-01. 
12/10/2003 Clarification Meeting Held  
12/17/2003 Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting Discussed at the December Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see December Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment B. 
1/22/2004 Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting Discussed at the January Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see January Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachments G & P 

Project Meetings

January Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Connie Winston/Qwest stated that this CR is a subset of a Qwest CR submitted by Crystal Soderlund (Qwest), SCR120303-01. John Berard/Covad questioned what was in the Migrations PCAT Matrix. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that MCI needs the ability to submit a single LSR and feels comfortable that Qwest’s SCR120303-01 covers it, if the Matrix is correct. This CR was withdrawn after the 16.0 Prioritization discussion, see Attachment P for SCR120303-01.

- December 17, 2003 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Liz Balvin/MCI reviewed her CR description and stated that Qwest has a CR that was via the SCRP process which has a portion that was postponed until 15.0 Liz stated that with 15.0, will be able to do an outside move. Liz stated that on the same day that this CR was submitted, Qwest issued a CR to add loop splitting. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that this MCI CR might be a duplicate of the SCRP CR and the new Qwest CR [SCR030603-01EXSC and SCR120303-01]. Liz stated that she agrees with a status of Pending Withdrawal for her CR, SCR120303-02.

-- CLARIFICATION MEETING - December 10, 2003 SCR120303-02 Allow single LSR to convert Analog Loop to NonLoaded (2 or 4 wire) or ADSL UBL (Unbundled loop) with Loop Splitting / Submitted by MCI SCR120303-01 Line and Loop Splitting Conversions with Number Portability with Flow Through / Submitted by Qwest

ATTENDEES: Liz Balvin/MCI, Chad Warner/MCI, Peggy Esquibel-Reed/Qwest, Conrad Evans/Qwest, Crystal Soderlund/Qwest, Robert Hercher/Qwest, Sandy Heimann/Qwest, Jim Recker/Qwest, Heidi Moreland

PURPOSE: Peggy Esquibel-Reed/Qwest stated that the call was for clarification of 2 CMP CRs and to determine if Qwest’s SCR120303-01 would meet MCIs SCR120303-02 request.

REVIEW CR DESCRIPTION: SCR120303-02 Allow single LSR to convert Analog Loop to NonLoaded (2 or 4 wire) or ADSL UBL (Unbundled loop) with Loop Splitting Qwest currently requires CLECs to submit two LSRs to provision an Unbundled Loop with Loop Splitting when the existing loop is analog. MCI requests Qwest provide the ability to submit a single LSR to convert an Analog Loop to Non-Loaded (2 or 4 wire) or ADSL qualified UBL and add Loop Splitting. Expected Deliverable is that CLECs accomplish converting end user’s with analog loops to unbundled loop with loop splitting on a single LSR.

SCR120303-01 Line and Loop Splitting Conversions with Number Portability with Flow Through requesting to allow Conversion activity (ACT = V, or Z) for Line and Loop Splitting Conversions with Number Portability on 1 LSR and allow system flow through. Expected Deliverable is IMA 16.0.

CONFIRMED INTERFACE: IMA Common for both CRs

CONFIRMED PRODUCTS: SCR120303-02 (MCIs): UNE SCR120303-01 (Qwests): Line Splitting, Loop Splitting

ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION: Peggy Esquibel-Reed/Qwest asked Liz/MCI and Crystal/Qwest if they had additional information to provide regarding their requests. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that she needs to be sure what Qwest views as an analog line. Liz stated that MCI sees UNE-P provisioned services as analog and UBL as analog. Liz stated that is regardless of what products are being converted from. Liz stated that she needs to be able to convert to UBL with Loop Splitting. Chad Warner/MCI stated that in the Loop Splitting PCAT it states that if the loop is analog, they need to convert to 2 or 4 wire or to ADSL and would need to add loop splitting. Chad stated that another issue is converting analog loop, UNE-P POTS (2 wire analog) needs to be covered. Chad stated that UNE-P POTS to Loop Splitting needs to be 1 LSR. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that she issued the Qwest CR because Qwest agreed to allow DSL if there is a quealified loop. Crystal stated that her CR is for the scenario of UNE-P to Loop Splitting via 1 LSR. Crystal noted would be able to do for only the ACTs of V or Z, and only if is a DSL qualified loop. Crystal stated that if not a qualified loop, would need to first be qualified via the conditioning process. Liz Balvin/MCI asked to clarify that DSL needs to be qualified. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that the facility would be reused because would know it to be qualified. Liz Balvin/MCI asked for an order for UBL with loop splitting and is existing UNE-P POTS with line splitting, the facilities would be used. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that that scenario would be more complex and stated that it would be covered in the training. Crystal noted that it would be considered a new product and would be covered in the training. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that this would enable UBL information on the loop service form and the adding of POTS splitter on 1 LSR. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that she thinks we are on the same page and stated that it looks to be a new way to place an order. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that IMA currently does not allow to add a new form. Crystal stated that training would cover this. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if this is a new product with pricing and Interconnection Agreement amendments.. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest responded no. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if this is just to be able to link forms in IMA. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest responded yes and stated that if have an UBL contract and a loop splitting contract, would be submitted as UBL split. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if she would need to certify for that. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that she would check into that and have that information as part of the training. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that if she looks at these 2 CRs, the difference is the Qwest CR is for Line & Loop Splitting and MCIs is for all UNEs. Liz asked that if UNE-P POTS is just that, with no DSL, the UNE could alresdy be conditioned. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest responded as long as the DSL is qualified, they can do that. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that if add UNE to the Qwest CR, MCI’s need would be met. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that she could revise her CR to include conversion of LX - - to LX-N. Crystal noted that PCAT changes would also need to be made. Crystal stated that with 16.0, if you take an existing analog loop and it is DSL capable, you would be able to submit via 1-LSR. Crystal stated that if is not DSL capable, the CLEC would first need to make it DSL capable. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if this is done via the Loop Qual query. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated yes. Liz Balvin/MCI asked that if she wants to determine prior to order submission, how would she know if 2/4 wire loaded or if loop qualified versus DSL qualified. Chad Warner/MCI stated that the Raw Loop Data Tool gives the loop makeup but he would not know if 2 or 4 wire. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that it does not matter if 2 or 4 wir. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that she believes the MCI CR to be different than the Qwest CR. Liz stated that it would be hard for the CLECs to identify if 2 or 4 wire. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that they can now submit UNE-P POTS on a single LSR but that the interval changes. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that the voice and data are provisioned to be the same but that the voice can be held-up. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that the analog loop definition makes her CR different than the Qwest CR. Liz stated that she is not sure if she is comfortable on how the CLECs would identify ahead of time if is DSL qualified. Jim Recker/Qwest stated that Qwest provides the loop make-up to the CLECs. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if the tool states if is qualified. Jim Recker/Qwest stated that the tool states why is not qualified. Chad Warner/MCI asked if UNE-P with Loop Splitting would be documented. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated yes, when talking conversion activities. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that the reason that DSL needs to be qualified is due to holding the voice in order to get data in. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that wants to make sure that her CR isn’t withdrawn if these CRs are different. Liz agreed that Line Splitting on UNE-P POTS is covered. Liz stated that she needs to determine if UBL is covered. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that if is not qualified, the CLEC would need to submit an LSR to qualify it. Liz Balvin/MCI asked Chad Warner/MCI if he would prefer to wait until documentation comes out before they withdraw their MCI CR. Chad Warner/MCI stated that did not know what the process was. Chad asked that for UNE-P to UNE-P with Line Splitting, the loop needs to be conditioned first with no extra charge and is a 1 LSR process. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest responded, correct, and noted that the voice would be in so it would not be held up. Chad Warner/MCI asked to clarify that if new or conversion, if existing UNE-P and wants to convert to loop splitting, they first need to make sure is conditioned/qualified and if it is, is 1 LSR. If not, is 2 LSRs. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest responded yes. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that if is not qualified, Qwest would jeop it back due to DSL not being qualified and 2 LSRs would be needed. Chad Warner/MCI asked if UNE-P and adding Line Splitting would be 1 LSR. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest responded yes because the voice is already in. Chad Warner/MCI asked if UNE-P to Loop Splitting. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that if DSL qualified it would be 1 LSR. If not qualified, it would need to be qualified 1st, then Loop Splitting could be added. Heidi Moreland/Qwest stated that the origination of the voice would change: for UNE-P, the voice would be from the Qwest switch. UNE-P with Line Splitting is just adding data. For Loop Splitting, the CLEC provides voice from the CLEC switch, not a Qwest switch. Chad Warner/MCI stated that he now understood. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if have conversion at the same time, a UNE-P POTS and Line Splitting, it would be 1 LSR. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that conversion of UNE-P POTS and adding Line Splitting is 1 LSR if DSL is qualified. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if it mattered if line or loop splitting, either has to be qualified. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest stated that if have UNE-P to UNE-P with line splitting, yes. If no UNE-P & need UNE-P with Line Splitting, needs to be DSL qualified. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that it sounds like Qwest would deny her CR any way due to the conditioning process. Crystal Soderlund/Qwest responded probably. There were no additional questions. Peggy Esquibel-Reed/Qwest stated that she needed to clarify previous statements that the Qwest CR changes would take place in 16.0. Peggy stated that the timeframe for the changes is dependant on the 16.0 prioritization outcome and if the candidate gets ranked high eough to move forward. Liz Balvin/MCI asked if this was an SCRP CR. Peggy Esquibel-Reed/Qwest responded no, not at this time. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that she would discuss these CRs with her internal team and advise if MCI would withdraw SCR120303-02. There were no additional comments or questions. ACTION PLAN: Both CRs are scheduled for presentation at the December Systems CMP Meeting, by the CR originators.

December 4, 2003 Email Sent to Liz Balvin/MCI: Hi Liz, Would you please provide me with several options of dates and times for the Clarification Meeting for your CMP CR, SCR120303-02? I will then schedule the call. Also, I am attaching a copy of a Qwest originated CR that I believe would cover your request and additional functionality. Would you please review the attached CR and advise if you agree that SCR120303-01 is requesting the same functionality as your SCR120303-02, along with additional functionality being requested on SCR120303-01? If you agree that yours is a duplicate request, would you like to withdraw your CR? Thanks, Liz. Peggy Esquibel-Reed Qwest CMP CRPM -- Systems

CenturyLink Response

DRAFT RESPONSE December 10, 2003

RE: SCR120303-02 (Allow single LSR to convert Analog Loop to NonLoaded (2 or 4 wire) or ADSL UBL (Unbundled loop) with Loop Splitting)

Qwest has reviewed the information submitted as part of Change Request SCR120303-02. Based upon research that has been conducted following the Clarification Meeting (held December 10, 2003) Qwest is still examining the issue. Qwest will continue to research the problem and provide an updated response at the January Systems CMP Meeting.

At the December Monthly Systems CMP Meeting, CMP participants will be given the opportunity to comment on this Change Request and provide additional clarifications. Qwest is interested in the experiences of the CMP community as relates to this issue. Qwest will incorporate any feedback received at the next Monthly Systems CMP Meeting into further evaluation of this Change Request.

Sincerely, Qwest

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